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John Bobbin BNat

Hi People,

People have searched for the elixir of youth for, as long as there have been scientific thinkers.
Records of births and deaths frequently show people living to extreme old age, 110 years to 120 years, and in some cases a bit longer, why don’t these people succumb to disease like the majority of people. Many studies have tried to answer this question; a lot of them were looking for a magic pill to extend both life and their own profit margins.

Professor Roy Walford MD, a medical doctor and researcher was 1 of 8 sealed in the Tucson, Arizona Biospere 2 from Sept 26, 1991 until Sept 26, 1993. Dr Walford was the medical officer for the project, which was set up to see if man could live in space in a sealed dome, grow his own food, and maintain good health. Walford found that they could not grow enough food in the Biosphere for 8 people; it was only 3.15 acres and contained representative biomes of Earth, rainforest, desert, mountains, coral reef etc. The crew was put on a very restrictive calorie intake and they lost a lot of weight, but surprisingly their health increased dramatically. Eating a lot less made them a lot healthier.

Scientists began to research this phenomenon, and found that calorie restriction extended the life of mice by 50%; it also greatly increased primate lifespan with Macaques, as well as worms, dragonflies and everything else so far tested, and if it doesn’t work with humans then we will be the only living thing on the planet that it doesn’t work for.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1743...ref=online-news

Since qualifying as a nutritionist (DNSc) in 1981 I have seen the same mistakes made daily. We need to eat less and move more, simple isn’t it.

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Suzette Marks
QUOTE(John Bobbin BNat @ Jul 9 2009, 05:29 PM) *

Hi People,

People have searched for the elixir of youth for, as long as there have been scientific thinkers.
Records of births and deaths frequently show people living to extreme old age, 110 years to 120 years, and in some cases a bit longer, why don’t these people succumb to disease like the majority of people. Many studies have tried to answer this question; a lot of them were looking for a magic pill to extend both life and their own profit margins.

Professor Roy Walford MD, a medical doctor and researcher was 1 of 8 sealed in the Tucson, Arizona Biospere 2 from Sept 26, 1991 until Sept 26, 1993. Dr Walford was the medical officer for the project, which was set up to see if man could live in space in a sealed dome, grow his own food, and maintain good health. Walford found that they could not grow enough food in the Biosphere for 8 people; it was only 3.15 acres and contained representative biomes of Earth, rainforest, desert, mountains, coral reef etc. The crew was put on a very restrictive calorie intake and they lost a lot of weight, but surprisingly their health increased dramatically. Eating a lot less made them a lot healthier.

Scientists began to research this phenomenon, and found that calorie restriction extended the life of mice by 50%; it also greatly increased primate lifespan with Macaques, as well as worms, dragonflies and everything else so far tested, and if it doesn’t work with humans then we will be the only living thing on the planet that it doesn’t work for.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn1743...ref=online-news

Since qualifying as a nutritionist (DNSc) in 1981 I have seen the same mistakes made daily. We need to eat less and move more, simple isn’t it.

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Interesting article. thanks for sharing!

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John Bobbin BNat
Hi,
This is what happens when you don't reduce your intake of calories. The Developed world is developing in all of the wrong places. They are refusing to learn the lessons of health.


http://www.economist.com/daily/chartgaller...ory_id=14025441


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Obesity in America
Battle of the bulge

Jul 13th 2009
From Economist.com
Obesity levels in America in 1998 and 2008

IT MAY be time to hide the cookie jar. Over 26% of Americans are obese, with a weight to height ratio (or body mass index) of over 30, according to the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, a government body. Over the past ten years, waistlines have expanded in every state. In 1998 most states had a relatively trim population, with fewer than a fifth of adults obese. But since then the scales have tipped in the other direction. Now at least a quarter of adults in 32 states are obese. Mississippi is the fattest of all, with a third of its residents considered obese.

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John Bobbin BNat
Hi People,

For some reason, unbeknown to me, most people that do not have Uni degrees in science, or a discipline that requires scientific evaluation, can not tell the difference between a manufacturer's lies and scientifically tested principles.

This forum proves it over and over again, one lady who holds a responsible position as a LA health writer believed some-one lived to more than 250 years, unbelievable!!!!!.

The principles that I am about to share with you have been tested many times with different cohorts (species) and the principle has always held in the test. It will work for you, it has in every other case, you will not be unique on this planet, so don't try to complicate it, just do it and watch the fantastic results. Not only more energy but better health in almost every measurement will be achieved.

When this study group finally die in 10 to 15 years we will have proof of life extension as well as all of the other benefits such as much less cancer, heart disease, diabetes, even arthritis, so why wait, if you try this and fail readjust what you are doing because it does work, don't blame the system, blame yourself for not doing it right.


Monkeys turn back time on a diet
Karen Kaplan
July 16, 2009

FOR developed countries, in which so many people are overweight or obese, scientists have discouraging news: even those who maintain a healthy weight probably should be eating less.

Evidence has been mounting that the practice of caloric restriction - essentially, going on a permanent diet - greatly reduces the risk of age-related diseases and even postpones death.

It had been shown to extend the lives of yeast, worms, flies, spiders, fish, mice and rats. And now, in a study funded by the US National Institutes of Health, many of the same benefits have been demonstrated in primates, the best evidence yet that caloric restriction would help people.

The findings, published in the journal Science, emerged from a study of rhesus monkeys that had been on a reduced-calorie regimen for as long as 20 years. The animals' risk of dying from cancer, heart disease and diabetes fell by more than two-thirds.

The results came as validation to people who profess to practise caloric restriction and were welcomed by scientists who study the biological mechanisms of ageing and longevity.

"It adds to the evidence piling up that caloric restriction, independent of thinness, is a healthy way to stay alive and healthy longer," said Susan Roberts, of the Human Nutrition Research Centre on Ageing at Tufts University, who was not involved in the study. "Less diseases in old age has to be something most everyone wants."

Luigi Fontana, a medical professor at Washington University in St Louis, examined people who had been practising caloric restriction for an average of 6½ years and found their heart function was equivalent to those of people 16 years younger.

"Mild caloric restriction is beneficial to everybody," Dr Fontana said.

The regimen sounds gruelling but is hardly a starvation diet, experts say. It typically begins with an assessment to determine how many calories an individual needs to maintain a healthy weight. That number is then shaved by 10 to 30 per cent.

People on caloric restriction can eat three meals a day. A typical menu includes cereal with fruit and nuts for breakfast and a big salad for lunch and dinner with lean meat. There is also room for a couple of snacks and a small dessert from time to time.

Caloric restriction has produced consistent health benefits for animals. In the new study, scientists tracked 76 adult rhesus monkeys from the Wisconsin National Primate Research Centre, from 1989. Half the animals were fed a typical diet of lab chow; the rest got a version with a higher concentration of vitamins and minerals to make up for the 30 per cent reduction in chow quantity.

Over the course of the study, the monkeys that ate the regular diet were three times more likely to die of an age-related disease than were their counterparts on caloric restriction. Fourteen deaths in the control group were attributable to age-related diseases, compared with five such deaths among the animals that ate 30 per cent fewer calories, the study found.

The rates of cardiovascular disease and precancerous cell growths were twice as high in the control group as the reduced-calorie group.

The researchers also noted that while five of the control monkeys became diabetic and 11 were classified as prediabetic, the calorie-restricted animals remained diabetes-free.

In all, the monkeys on caloric restriction "appear to be biologically younger than the normally fed animals", the researchers wrote.

Scientists are not sure why eating less slows the ageing process, but theories abound. There is evidence from mice that caloric restriction induces the body to activate fewer genes related to inflammation, which many scientists suspect plays a key role in ageing.

Another theory holds that starved organisms hunker down in maintenance mode, shutting down activities such as reproduction, which wear the body down.

Or perhaps caloric restriction reduces body temperature, thus limiting the production of free radicals, which break down the body by damaging tissues and DNA.

"It's all speculation," said Dr Sergei Romashkan of the National Institute on Ageing, who is overseeing a clinical trial of caloric restriction in people.

The study authors will not be able to calculate how much caloric restriction extended the monkeys' average lifespan - or whether it boosted their maximum lifespan - until all the animals have died. That could take 10 to 15 years, said a senior author, Richard Weindruch, medical professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

Also left unanswered are questions about the psychological state of monkeys who spend most of their adult lives on a forced diet, Ms Roberts said. Are they happy? Are they hungry? Can they think as quickly?

When Jay Phelan, an evolutionary biologist at the University of California, Los Angeles, put mice on caloric restriction, he got the distinct impression that they did not appreciate it. "They bit people and were more agitated," he said. The mice who ate a normal diet "would just sit around and let you pick them up".

Dr Weindruch said he was under no illusion that the monkey findings would prompt many people to adopt caloric restriction. He has started a company to create drugs that would provide the same health benefits without extreme dieting.

Physiologists agreed that instead of promoting caloric restriction, a more pressing goal is to help the two-thirds of Americans who are overweight or obese shed their extra kilograms.


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LEE786

It is much healthier to eat more calories and exercise more, as long as you eat healthy. You can always lose weight by eating below your BMR (basal metabolic rate, you can calculate it online), but even skinny people can be very physically unfit if they dont exercise. Balance between cardio and weight training. If you want more muscle tone, increase weight training and protein, but if you want lean muscle that isn't bulky, increase cardio. Regular exercise also makes you feel great, so that alone is a great reason, it also helps you prevent injury, gives you great endurance, strengthens your heart, and makes daily physical activity much easier.
John Bobbin BNat
Hi LEE786,

I think you might be right and wrong on this one, (a) I am sure you are wrong about being able to eat a lot of calories and reduce weight by exercise alone, I have never seen anyone lose weight with a diet that didn't watch calories and I first became a nutritionist in 1981, the other thing we have to concern ourselves with is the possibility that the waste metabolites may cause cancer.

I first became aware of this hypothesis about 10 years ago in a letter sent to me from a Professor from Monash University who at the time was the head of nutrition for Sanitarium Foods (Professor Mark Wahiqvist).

http://www.monash.edu.au/news/expertline/d...?contact_id=460

(cool.gif Your right about skinny people often being unhealthy often with fat around organs (TOFI)- thin outside fat inside, this happens a fair bit to Asian people, caused by diet. Most Asian people with a body mass of 23 would be fat from researchers, I posted something on this on this forum.


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defni
To live longer, no need to eat less. It can harm your health. Take healthy diet and do exercise regular. If you are overweight, go for best colon cleanser.
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John Bobbin BNat
Hi defni,

If you think colon cleansing has a role in health then I would suggest you read some articles on the subject written by people who research this area, it is dangerous, serves no purpose whatsoever, if colon surgeons can not find any evidence of fecal matter clinging to colon walls, then it does not happen, so there is nothing to flush, peristalsis is a good system, evolving over millions of years.

Eating less and living longer is no longer just an idea it has been proven in every study so far conducted, if you think it is wrong quote your research so we can all look at it.

Good to hear from you, have a nice day.

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celina12
A very smart and diplomatic answer. It’s really appreciable and generous.
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John Bobbin BNat
Hi celina12,
Thank you for your kind comments.

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John Bobbin BNat
Hi Guys,

biggrin.gif Did you know that if you are a woman you eat more when you eat out with a bigger group of girls, and you eat less when a male is present, so obviously the answer to this is to shout your husband/boyfriend a free meal because is watching out for your health by exercising a healthy restraint on your calorie intake.

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1: Appetite. 2009 Jul 29. [Epub ahead of print]Click here to read Links
Food for thought. What you eat depends on your sex and eating companions.
Young ME, Mizzau M, Mai NT, Sirisegaram A, Wilson M.

Department of Psychology, Neuroscience and Behaviour, McMaster University, 1280 Main Street West, Hamilton, Ontario L8S 4K1, Canada.

In a naturalistic study, we investigated the influence of gender, group size and gender composition of groups of eaters on food selected for lunch and dinner (converted to total calories per meal) of 469 individuals (198 groups) in three large university cafeterias. In dyads, women observed eating with a male companion chose foods of significantly lower caloric value than those observed eating with another woman. Overall, group size was not a significant predictor of calories, but women's calories were negatively predicted by numbers of men in the group, while the numbers of women in the group had a marginally significant positive impact on calorie estimates. Men's calorie totals were not affected by total numbers of men or women. This study supports previous investigations, but is unique in making naturalistic observations.
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