Which product is more nutritious?

hi marie - welcome to the board!! would u like to know the milk for adults? or infant formula?

info request and analysis is for adult female

Soy milk and lactose free milk are options for people who have lactose intolerance. The Calcium content in lactose free milk should be similar to milk as it just added some lactose which digests the lactic acid for you. You would find lactose free milk is a little bit sugary than regular milk.

For regular soy milk, its calcium content is not significant, as long as it is fortified with Calcium. So, if you are concerning with the Calcium content, you have to go for those fortified or Calcium added soy milk.

And be careful that sweetened soy milk is a little bit high in calories, as sugar is added. If you concern this, you can choose some unsweetened calcium added soy milk.

hi marie - thanks for clarifying it. i would say both are as nutritious - depending what you drink them for, which version you choose and your preference.

soy milk is virtually lactose free whereas as most lactose-free milk are 70% - 99.9% lactose free so be sure to read the label. i agree with rosalie, if you are drinking soy milk to replace cow's milk - make sure to choose one that is calcium-fortified. non-Ca fortified soy milk only contains ~95mg of calcium whereas calcium-fortified soy milk contains ~280 - 300mg of Ca (similar to a serving of cow's milk)

since it's plant-based, soy milk contains no cholesterol and lower amounts of saturated fat. however soy milk is NOT low-fat. most soy milk's fat content is similar to that of 2% cow's milk. If you would like lower calories and fat content, skim lactose-free milk and fat-free soy milk provide fewer calories.

if you are drinking soy milk for heart benefits, then lactose-free cow's milk loses out to soy milk. FDA approved a health claim not long ago - stating that "Diets low in saturated fat and cholesterol that include 25 grams of soy protein a day may reduce the risk of heart disease.". One glass of soy milk contains about 8g of soy protein. For more info:

http://www.healthcastle.com/benefitsofsoy_heart.shtml

many women we talked to do not like the taste and aftertaste of unsweetened soy milk, but are concerned of the sugar/flavoring added in the flavored soy milk. if you are one of them, then lactose-free cow's milk may be a better option. as rosalie mentioned, lactose-free cow's milk is naturally sweeter than normal cow's milk. for myself - i'm not lactose intolerant, but i always drink lactose-free milk because of the taste. so it really depends on your taste preference.

hope that helps.

Whole milk is (from grass fed cows).... avoid all soy products!

Soy isn't a health food. the Soy industry will tell you differently.

Don't fall for all the Low fat no fat crap.... We never evolved that way.

The bottom line is stick to traditional foods from your ancestors.

Coconut oil is one of the most nutritious things we have on the planet.

Eggs from free range hens are a nearly perfect food.

A tidbit of info:

The Sunday Times March 06, 2005

Deaths linked to heart drugs
Lois Rogers, Medical Editor

EXPERTS are calling for a complete safety review of heart drugs taken by millions of Britons. Government figures released last week show that 92 deaths have been linked to the statin drugs developed to lower cholesterol. It is believed that the death toll could be higher because doctors are reluctant to blame drugs they prescribe for harming patients. More than 37 of the deaths were attributed to a formulation called simvastatin which is now being sold over the counter in low doses under the brand name Zocor.

Last year a study of almost 150,000 people in Austria found that those with lowered cholesterol were more likely to die of cancer. Andrew Clark, a cardiologist at Castle Hill hospital in Hull, was the co-author of an international study of 417 heart failure patients that showed those with higher cholesterol levels actually lived longer. ?A higher cholesterol level seems to be linked to more efficient metabolism,? he said.

Gary :c)

i'm sorry i'm not ready to follow what my ancestors ate as i don't want to have an average life span of 50 years and under.

also the ANCESTORS of asians have been eating soy beans and products for at least a thousand years.

it's amazing some people can draw conclusions based a study but ignore the other hundreds of studies. speak about science, i'm actually interested to know which medical journal this study is published in.

Your post simply REEKS of that type of irrational, forcefull dogma remenicent of monkey-brained [edited by Ian - see notes below] types. All the evidence that I have seen, points toward a calorie restriced diet that contains a spectrum of nutrient molecules as being best for overall health and longlivity. Fat is mostly empty calories, and has been shown to clog arteries and cause problems with the heart. Even the brain will run more efficiently when supplied with the "correct" type of fat molecules, as opposed to the "incorrect" fats. Scientific studies must be criticized thoroughly before they see the light of day, especially if they run contrary to the currently accepted facts.

Note from Ian: Thanks for your feedback EternityofNight. I removed one word from your post as others might be offended by it. Please keep the down to earth comments coming. They benefit the group!

I read a few misquotes, so I just wanted to clarify. Although most soymilks do have added sugar, most still have half the amount of sugar as milk. Milk has a very high sugar content. You also have the option of buying unsweetened soy milks, such as Silk (in the green carton). These have just one gram of sugar per serving compared to milk's 12grams of sugar.

I am not a proponent of lowfat or no-fat so I can't comment too much on this, but there are obviously lite versions of both regular milk and soy milk if this is a concern to you.

Most soy milks are calcium fortified, and contain the same amount of calcium as milk glass for glass. Many are also fortified with Vitamin D and Vitamin A. Many people don't realize that milk is in fact fortified with these as well. The pasteurization and homogenization of milk kills off most of the water soluble vitamins.

For myself, I do not like to consistenly eat one type of food. I usually alternate the types of "milks" I drink between soy, rice, and almond (I have a tested milk allergy). My husband absolutely loves the almond milk. Check the products at www.GoDairyFree.org for a ton of soy and other "milk" options. There should be a product there that meets with all of your nutrition requirements.

As for Gary, I agree that we should try to eat foods as natural as possible. It should be pointed out though, that it depends on how far back you go into our ancestry to answer the question on milk. When I was still consuming milk (before I was aware of the allergy), someone posed some simple questions to me "Why are humans the only mammals to consume milk past infancy? And further, why do we consume the milk of another mammal intended for their young?" At the time it didn't mean much to me, but I still didn't have an answer. I never really thought about the fact that cow's have to be brought into pregnancy in order to milk them. It made the whole process seem rather strange.

I am not a certified neutritionalist or doctor but have studied extensively over the past few years and I beleive that fermented soy prodcts are safe and healthy but unfermented soy products are very dangerous as they contain very large and dangerous proteins.

I also beleive that soy is not approved by the FDA as a generally accepted as safe food even though it has been asked to do so several times.

Soy is probably the largest source of protein that we have and has billions of $'s backing it but I recomend everyone to proceed with caution.

so a few searches regarding soy food safety and then make your own judgment.

Regarding FDA and soy it was my understandign that the FDA has instructed everyone to take all the good things about soy off of their products because it has been shown by medical experiments that the resuts are not so.

Be Cautious

Thanks and best regards

further information available at Weston A Price Foundation and other places.

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To learn about reliable nutrition information, visit websites that are accredited.

Soy is not unsafe or dangerous. To learn about recent American Heart Association advisory on soy, visit http://www.healthcastle.com/soy_heart_AHA.shtml. There's a link at the bottom of the article which takes you to AHA's press release.

http://shop.snyderhealth.com/article_info.php?articles_id=2

According to my information Soymilk? is the rich creamy milk of whole soybeans. With its unique nutty flavor and rich nutrition, soymilk can be used in a variety of ways. Soymilk is sold in supermarkets, health food stores and specialty food shops. For more details you may check this site.

Hi Annie,
Can you show me a study that confirms your comment about average lifespan of the ancestors being attributed to what they ate. I would have thought the main reason for the shortened lifespan would have been the diseases that killed kids and the comunicable diseases that were unstoppable back then, conditions were also horrific. Looking at headstones from a century ago still shows some very old people existed, my first Australian ancestor lived to 88 years on one side and 100 on the other.I agree soy is a very healthy food and some of the longest lived people on the planet have always eaten it. Nutrient rich food that are also calorie poor appears to be the food to eat for longevity.We have to be carefull that we don't confuse corelation with causation.