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justin.Moore
I have been doing Muay Thai for years and started doing BJJ recently. After every training session, my joints are killing me to the point where I cannot even finish my training. Can anyone else experience joint pain when grappling? Usually our classes consist of 30 minutes of technical work and 30 minutes of totally out rolling.

emily9a
Hey, my wife is a runner; she has run two Marathons and has suffered from Knee Joint pain for years. She used footpad and she felt a phenomenal difference within the first two weeks, and has now gotten her mother on it to, and she says that her arthritis feels almost gone. Footpad also known as Detox pad and it helps to relieve fatigue, joint pain, headaches, skin rashes and many other health problems. Therefore, I would highly recommend you for footpad. Hope this will work out for you. Good Luck!
John Bobbin BNat
QUOTE(emily9a @ Dec 10 2007, 04:51 AM) *

Hey, my wife is a runner; she has run two Marathons and has suffered from Knee Joint pain for years. She used footpad and she felt a phenomenal difference within the first two weeks, and has now gotten her mother on it to, and she says that her arthritis feels almost gone. Footpad also known as Detox pad and it helps to relieve fatigue, joint pain, headaches, skin rashes and many other health problems. Therefore, I would highly recommend you for footpad. Hope this will work out for you. Good Luck!



Hi emily9a,
I have just had a look at the "science" provided and before I used any of these type of products I would want to see something a lot more substantial than this. If the problem is arthritis you will need to try to arrest the deterioration of the cartilaginous material and for that you will need something like Glucosamine. You can get Glucosamine cream with a fusome delivery system which allows it to be absorbed through the skin within 3 minutes, it features Glucosamine Hydrochloride which is 99% pure whereas the sulphate version is only 75-85% pure. It is impossible to suck out arthritis according to all of the research I have seen.

Neilmanello
While glucosamine can help joint pain, I beleive that no amount can totally relieve an avid runner like a marathon runner. People may disagree with me, but running is not really good for you. There are much better ways to get in good cardiovascular exercise without pounding your joints and ruining your knees. I stopped running after high school and concentrated more on strength training, and basic exercises like sit-ups, push-ups and pull-ups. I have much more muscle on my body now and I am a much healthier person than I was then, and I my joints are never sore and by bones don't ache after I work out, because I do what is necessary to gain and maintain muscle mass and that's it. I feel running is the most overrated exercise. If you really want to build lung capacity and have good wind then buy an ellipticle, which puts no stress on joints. I would advise taking a supplement for joint health with glucosamine in it to correct any damage that has been done so far and then to not cause any more by pounding your feet against the pavement every day.
layla17
Good thoughts Neil... I believe that many people overlook joint stress when exercising. Many supplements can help with joint stress, but a fairly simple and tasty snack is a pretty easy way to avoid spending money on supplements. I would recommend Jello.
John Bobbin BNat
QUOTE(Neilmanello @ Dec 14 2007, 05:54 PM) *

While glucosamine can help joint pain, I beleive that no amount can totally relieve an avid runner like a marathon runner. People may disagree with me, but running is not really good for you. There are much better ways to get in good cardiovascular exercise without pounding your joints and ruining your knees. I stopped running after high school and concentrated more on strength training, and basic exercises like sit-ups, push-ups and pull-ups. I have much more muscle on my body now and I am a much healthier person than I was then, and I my joints are never sore and by bones don't ache after I work out, because I do what is necessary to gain and maintain muscle mass and that's it. I feel running is the most overrated exercise. If you really want to build lung capacity and have good wind then buy an ellipticle, which puts no stress on joints. I would advise taking a supplement for joint health with glucosamine in it to correct any damage that has been done so far and then to not cause any more by pounding your feet against the pavement every day.



Hi Neilmanello,
Research shows you are wrong!!!! Check the research done by Jim Fries at Stanford University over an eighteen year period using runners aged 58 at start and 76 at finish. Jim conclusively proved running gives chondo-protection against arthritis of 12 years. I would not advocate running on concrete, but running on softer tracks without the shearing action of sports that include twisting, jumping and direction change, will give runners protection against arthritis.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/2332409.stm

So far no successful challenges of a scientific nature have been made against this research as far as I am aware. Running is good but twisting and shearing, regardless of what joint it is has to be bad. Many studies
have shown positive results for glucosamine and as you say some have not shown such great results

http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/175_08...my/bellamy.html

http://www.anta.com.au/PDF%20Files/Osteoar...is%20Thesis.pdf

I trained Karate players from 1972 until 2004 and a lot of those guys moved into weight training and accidents still occur there, especially with strong guys, an ex Mr NSW body building champion spends a lot of time at my house, he bench presses 424 Lbs, I don't think this is healthy either. I think moderation maybe the key here and at all costs avoid twisting action that may lead to shearing injuries.
Cheers
Neilmanello
Well, I may be wrong in my adamant stance against running, but from personal experience I can say I am better off doing the exercises I do now and not running than I was in high school. I have a friend who is a dedicated runner but really doesn't do any other exercises and he has had trouble sculpting his body the way he wants it and he is constantly complaining about being sore and getting minor injuries due to running. I think he does a lot of his running on hard surfaces, like the sidewalk, so you have a point there. I have advised him to change up his workout and focus more on strength training but he is convinced of the benefits of running and he will not stop.
John Bobbin BNat
QUOTE(Neilmanello @ Dec 22 2007, 10:35 PM) *

Well, I may be wrong in my adamant stance against running, but from personal experience I can say I am better off doing the exercises I do now and not running than I was in high school. I have a friend who is a dedicated runner but really doesn't do any other exercises and he has had trouble sculpting his body the way he wants it and he is constantly complaining about being sore and getting minor injuries due to running. I think he does a lot of his running on hard surfaces, like the sidewalk, so you have a point there. I have advised him to change up his workout and focus more on strength training but he is convinced of the benefits of running and he will not stop.


Hi Neilmanello,
You sound like a very honest type of guy, and they are the type of people I like. I often argue with a fellow that comes to my place a lot over the best type of exercise. There is no best, it's a case of what is best for you. Personally I love to run and punch bags, probably because I have always been good at it and it makes me feel good as well as get me super fit. I think it is important to address cardiovascular exercise as well as strength training. Did you know, for instance, that weight training increases the thickness of the heart walls and produces a larger volume of blood per beat whereas cardio exercise produces a smoother, rhythmical beat and blood volume.
Cheers and have a very happy Christmas.
John Bobbin BNat
Hi Neilmanello,
You sound like as if you know a fair bit about exercise so I'll ask you is race walking a good compromise for jogging if you wanted to avoid impact injuries?
Neilmanello
QUOTE(John Bobbin BNat @ Dec 28 2007, 03:51 PM) *

Hi Neilmanello,
You sound like as if you know a fair bit about exercise so I'll ask you is race walking a good compromise for jogging if you wanted to avoid impact injuries?


Absolutely. Race walking or just normal walking are great alternatives to jogging to avoid impact injuries. I agree that there is no best exercise for everyone, but different exercises are the best for each person depending on age, body mass index, athleticism and the amount of time they have to devote to exercise. The general consensus among experts seems to be that walking is the best exercise because almost everyone can do it. It is at the very least a good starting point.
John Bobbin BNat
Hi Neilmanello,

I recently watched an old man (70+) race walking in South Australia. I was power walking and he went past me like as if I was standing still, he looked so smooth I thought he could walk like this forever. When I try to adopt this technique it doesn't feel, or look like that. Is Olympic race walking difficult to learn?
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